Quick Update on Padres Shutting Out 21 Game Members From ASG Tickets

Dee1 My post yesterday discussing the Padres decision to further devalue their 21 game membership package by not offering guaranteed All Star Game tickets to those members attracted a lot of attention.  To further clarify the discussion, I thought it was important to note the key differences between what past ASG hosts did in respect to their season ticketholders and why the Padres are taking a different path. The team is clinging to the argument that inventory is limited by those big jerks in the league office:

And yes, inventory is limited, but it is at the team’s discretion how to allocate that inventory to their fan base.  As discussed yesterday, both Cincinnatti and Minnesota offered guaranteed tickets to all of their season ticketholders, to include their 20 game ticketholders.  The key difference between what the Padres are doing and what Minnesota did lies at the half season package level.  Minnesota limited their half season ticket package holders to two All Star Game tickets, regardless of how many seats they had in their season ticket package.  In doing so, they preserved enough inventory to presumably reward their 20 game package holders for their loyalty and investment as well.  Of course, they could have done what the Padres did and offer as many tickets as they had season ticket seats to their half game STHs, but that would marginalize their 20 game package holders.

Look, in the end, it’s a business decision by the Padres to greatly favor half and full season ticketholders more than their 21 game package holders.  This is to be expected, of course, to some degree – after all, those customers invested more.  This is built into the membership structure left over from the Garfinkel era in that the different package tiers have different published benefits.  For the entirety of 2015, the front office has been making efforts and moves to devalue and marginalize the 21 game program.  What once was called a membership, is now essentially being treated as marginally better than a 4 game mini-plan package.  This is the Padres prerogative, but looking at the entirety of the Padres history, fans are fickle and in general, it’s not a good idea to repeatedly marginalize your most loyal customers.  Especially when past host cities have chosen to reward those that make a larger and more long term investment in the team.  If you cleave out enough value from the 21 game program for customers, you will eventually have trouble finding more customers.  As illustrious Gaslamp Baller and world class Mike Dee gear grinder @Kevintheoman pointed out:

Word has gotten out on the Padres treatment of 21 game customers.  My original post on the canceling of flexible ticket trading for 21 game customers is regularly our most viewed post, enough that it is now the #4 Google result when you search for “Padres season tickets”.  At some point, the team will need to appeal to these customers again after tossing them out like some moldy tangerine.


8 responses to “Quick Update on Padres Shutting Out 21 Game Members From ASG Tickets

  1. “Look, in the end, it’s a business decision by the Padres to greatly favor half and full season ticketholders more than their 21 game package holders. This is to be expected, of course, to some degree – after all, those customers invested more. ”

    The real problem isn’t so much that the team made a business decision to leave 21 game ticket holders out. The problem is that there are likely A LOT of people who bought 21 game tickets with the expectation they were eligible for ASG tickets. The marketing over the off season was in overdrive saying something to the effect of “season tickets was the best option for ASG tickets”. As the 21 game package is a package of season tickets, it’s implied that 21 game customers would have an opportunity at ASG tickets. Perhaps not the same opportunity as other season ticket holders, but still something like a lottery to reward them over non-season ticket holders.

    To sum it up….it was a bait and switch. I’m not even surprised by this kind of stuff anymore (which is the alarming part).


  2. Was reading some twitter mentions and replies for Wayne Partello. It seems that the 21 game members WILL be eligible for a lottery. So, this isn’t as bad as I previously thought.

    Still, it isn’t in actual formal writing, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the team screwed over those fans anyways…..just ’cause.


    • Yes they get a lottery based on tenure, so new 2015 members are pretty much boned. If inventory is so tight, I wouldn’t hold my breath as a 21 game member with 4 years tenure. Doesn’t excuse the fact that other host teams found a way to guarantee ASG tickets for their 1/4 season ticketholders.


  3. Though they have said Gold and Platinum are guaranteed tickets, they haven’t said what specific tickets these are. I wouldn’t be surprised if you upgrade to Gold from Blue that you end up with some nice Park in the Park standing room only tickets, or maybe a nice single. “You were interested in tickets where you would actually be able to see the game? You wanted at least a pair of tickets? Those are reserved for our Platinum members. Let’s talk about how we can upgrade your package…..”

    Also, the lottery is garbage. How many tickets will be allocated to the lottery? How many ticket holders are vying for this opportunity? We would probably be better off entering the sweepstakes to win tickets through mlb.com

    Current Dishonesty Scale:
    1: Carnies
    2: Padres Ticket Office
    3: Car Salesmen
    3: Lawyers


  4. “This is to be expected, of course, to some degree – after all, those customers invested more.”- in reference to half and full season plans.

    If I purchased a single seat 21 plan in field reserved, I paid $651.

    If I purchased a single seat 41 plan in upper reserved, I paid $461.25

    In this scenario, the Gold member actually invested LESS but is awarded the guarantee for All Star Game tickets, while the BLUE member that invested more is subject to the lottery.

    The more you look at this, the more sketchy it is.


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